Legislature(1993 - 1994)

11/12/1993 10:00 AM House O&G

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  Number 158                                                                   
                                                                               
  HB 199 - OIL & GAS EXPLORATION LICENSES/LEASES                               
                                                                               
  KEN BOYD, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF OIL & GAS, DEPARTMENT                 
  OF NATURAL RESOURCES (DNR), said Chairman Green gave a good                  
  overview of the bill, and that he would highlight the                        
  features of the document under consideration.  He explained                  
  this bill originated during the 17th session when, then                      
  Commissioner Heinze was challenged to stem the tide of                       
  companies leaving Alaska.  There was a lot of controversy                    
  about the bill, and a new bill was crafted during the 18th                   
  session when it was introduced to the Oil & Gas Committee                    
  and to the counterpart committee on the senate side.  This                   
  committee heard the bill as did the Finance Committee, and                   
  in the senate there was fireworks during the last session.                   
  The bill was pulled in different directions and no one                       
  seemed pleased with its configuration.  He said industry has                 
  worked with DNR during the interim to reach this consensus                   
  document.  He said it would be important that all parties                    
  involved remain on board with whatever changes are made                      
  because the alliance behind this document is strong.                         
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD explained that in the original bill the concept of                  
  exploration licensing applied to virtually any land that had                 
  never been leased before.  Through a series of meetings and                  
  hearings it was determined to limit the bill to certain                      
  geographic areas.  Mr. Boyd referred to maps in the room and                 
  illustrated that everything above the dashed line would be                   
  off-limits, thereby delineating lands north of the Umiat                     
  baseline from everything south of that line and from certain                 
  areas outside of the Cook Inlet box.                                         
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD stated because many of the items in the draft were                  
  interdependent, it would be difficult to address one topic                   
  at a time.  Having said that, he continued by addressing the                 
  concept of commitment.  He said a company would have a                       
  commitment, subscribed to for a period of time, that would                   
  involve certain conditions.  One condition would be a bond,                  
  which is the state's assurance that the work commitment                      
  would be fulfilled.  In the original bill, bonding was on a                  
  dollar-for-dollar basis and any work left undone was                         
  forfeited to the state.  In the October 25 draft, there is                   
  an attempt to reach middle ground.  He explained the formula                 
  in the following way:  " You take your work commitment and                   
  you subtract the amount of work you have done up to the                      
  point in time you are at and you divide it by the number of                  
  years left."  He further illustrated this formula with the                   
  following example:  "Let's say you have a 50 million dollar                  
  work commitment and you have not done any work yet, and it                   
  is a 10 year license; so it is 50 million minus zero,                        
  divided by 10.  Your bond for the first year would be five                   
  million dollars.  You do five million dollars worth of work                  
  your first year.  What is your bond for the second year?  It                 
  would be 50 minus five, divided by nine; it would be five                    
  million again, and so on."  He stated that with this formula                 
  the state would not be protected on a dollar-for-dollar                      
  basis, yet there would still be a fairly high standard.  He                  
  explained that if a company did not perform, their bond                      
  would be forfeited and they would lose their license.                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD said in the original house bill there was no                        
  relinquishment provision at all.  He explained                               
  relinquishment as meaning that at some point during the                      
  licensing period a company would give back some of the land                  
  they were originally given.  In the senate, the provision                    
  was that at the end of the fourth year, 25 percent of the                    
  original licensed area was to be relinquished, and then on                   
  each succeeding anniversary 10 percent of the original                       
  acreage would be relinquished.  Once again, industry felt                    
  this was too harsh a standard, and from a long series of                     
  meetings, a compromise was established.  It was determined                   
  that at least 25 percent of the work commitment should be                    
  done during the first four years, otherwise a company would                  
  risk losing its license.  However, if 50 percent of the work                 
  was done in the first four years, there would be no                          
  relinquishment.  He said this works to the advantage of the                  
  state because it increases the workload in the beginning.                    
  If the company does something in-between, then 25 percent of                 
  the original acreage is relinquished and then each                           
  succeeding year 10 percent of the remaining acreage, up to a                 
  maximum of 50 percent, is lost.  This is characterized as a                  
  balance because companies are given the opportunity to not                   
  relinquish any land, yet they are still required to do 25                    
  percent of the work, thereby pushing the work forward.  He                   
  concluded that bonding and relinquishment are key points in                  
  protecting the state.                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD mentioned competitive bidding as another aspect of                  
  this bill.  He said there was objection to this because it                   
  was difficult for some companies to have the authorization,                  
  with minimal notice, to bid higher.  Both the senate version                 
  and the October 25 draft have incorporated competitive                       
  sealed bids.  He said that in efforts to define what monies                  
  would be counted towards the work commitment, overhead costs                 
  were excluded, whereas direct exploration expenditures were                  
  included.  He noted that sometimes a smaller company may                     
  have a real or perceived benefit over a larger company and                   
  be able to do a certain job cheaper.                                         
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD said with regards to acreage chargeability, the                     
  licensed area would not be charged against the 500,000 acre                  
  maximum.  He further stated the application fee would be                     
  lower than in the original bill and would not exceed one                     
  dollar per acre.  He said in the original bill, all a                        
  company had to do was pay the work commitment.  In the                       
  senate bill a company had annual reviews, which is a lot of                  
  work.  With the bonding formula, middle ground is approached                 
  because a company would have to complete 25 percent of the                   
  work by the end of the fourth year.  He added the bond would                 
  need to be in place at the beginning of each year.                           
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD stated Title 46, financial responsibility, is not                   
  present in the October 25 draft.  In the senate there was a                  
  lot of discussion pertaining to the reduction of the                         
  financial responsibility from five million to one million                    
  dollars.  Mr. Boyd said this issue is not DNR's                              
  responsibility, but is in fact a subset of Title 46 and is                   
  part of a financial responsibility package that was passed                   
  several years ago in response to the Exxon Valdez accident.                  
  He stated HB 567 introduced a lot of new financial                           
  responsibilities.  He said that, as a convenience, every                     
  provision not pertaining to exploration licensing was taken                  
  out of the October 25 document.  For the same reason, the                    
  so-called 90-day provision was also removed but will appear                  
  in some other legislation.  Mr. Boyd also mentioned that the                 
  rental fee would actually begin at three dollars an acre,                    
  and move incrementally from there.  He said another change                   
  refers to extending the phrase, "Acts of God" to the                         
  (undiscernible).                                                             
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD joined Chairman Green in commending the industry on                 
  the hard work done and the compromises made to arrive at                     
  this document.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 501                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN thanked Mr. Boyd and asked if there were any                  
  questions from committee members before taking testimonies                   
  from the audience.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 506                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SANDERS asked if the regulations and                    
  rules generated from this would support the original intent                  
  of this legislature.                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 511                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD responded that a lot of the regulations were                        
  already in Title 38.  He said an annual meeting would need                   
  to be determined, and the regulations would need to be                       
  updated.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 545                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN mentioned that Kotzebue was now on-line.                      
                                                                               
  Number 558                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS asked if there was any commitment                     
  from the industry that companies would take advantage of                     
  this bill.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 565                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD replied he did not have anything in writing but                     
  believed that the companies would not spend so much time on                  
  this if they did not intend to take advantage of it.  He                     
  said he could not make any promises, but saw this as an                      
  opportunity for Alaska.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 598                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT asked for clarification regarding                   
  the administrative effect this bill would have on DNR.                       
                                                                               
  Number 602                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD replied the program could initially be administered                 
  without additional personnel and the status quo would be                     
  sufficient.  He said if the program grew and became popular,                 
  changes in staff would probably ensue.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 624                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if more than 25 percent, but less than                  
  50 percent of the work commitment were done, resulting in a                  
  situation where the licensed area would, during the fourth                   
  year still be in tact, who would determine which areas were                  
  to be relinquished?                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 626                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD replied there was a provision in the bill                           
  pertaining to the commissioner's identification of the                       
  acreage to be relinquished if the company did not identify a                 
  compact and contiguous 25 percent of the acreage.                            
                                                                               
  Number 632                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if this also applied to the subsequent                  
  10 percents.  Chairman Green also asked if this would, in                    
  effect, be administered in a fashion similar to that of                      
  unitization, thereby indicating that more personnel may be                   
  needed.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 638                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD answered in the affirmative to both questions.                      
                                                                               
  Number 639                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN reiterated that Mr. Boyd had finished                         
  highlighting  the changes introduced to the bill, and asked                  
  if there were any questions from the remote areas.                           
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN said testimony would be taken in the order in                 
  which people signed in.                                                      
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-15, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  BILL O'BRIEN, RESIDENT, south Anchorage, thanked the                         
  committee and testified in support of the October 25 draft.                  
  He said oil revenues have afforded Alaska tremendous                         
  prosperity and sustaining this prosperity requires replacing                 
  the declining production with new fields as well as                          
  legislation that will make Alaska attractive to the                          
  industry.  He asked legislators to review the following two                  
  questions:  1) How many of the companies that currently                      
  operate oil and gas fields today are aggressively exploring                  
  within Alaska? and 2) How many of the companies who have                     
  left in recent years plan to return to explore?  He said                     
  although Alaska is virtually unexplored, U.S. oil companies                  
  are investing more than half of their exploration and                        
  production capital overseas.  He stated this bill, if passed                 
  in the next session, would signal to the industry that                       
  Alaska wants to improve its business climate.  He further                    
  stated that exploration and development require time,                        
  especially in Alaska, and that Alaskans must plan for the                    
  future, a future that includes aggressive exploration                        
  because Alaska cannot afford to do otherwise.                                
                                                                               
  Number 038                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN thanked Mr. O'Brien.  He said he would                        
  presume in this and other testimonies that this would be                     
  considered as the potential committee substitute.                            
                                                                               
  Number 040                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BOYD answered this was correct.  He said in response to                  
  Representative Sander's earlier question that he was                         
  certainly in support of the current draft and hoped it would                 
  help to generate activity in the industry.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 049                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if any of the satellites had questions.                 
  There being none, he called upon the next witness.                           
                                                                               
  Number 059                                                                   
                                                                               
  JUDITH BRADY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA OIL AND GAS                         
  ASSOCIATION (AOGA), said it was the association's opinion                    
  that large block licensing would accelerate exploration and                  
  the potential development of Alaska's frontier areas.  She                   
  stated the association supports the geographical                             
  delineations regarding the Umiat baseline, et cetera.  She                   
  said AOGA supports the posting of an annual bond or other                    
  security in favor of the state and in which the security is                  
  calculated as the entire work commitment, expressed in                       
  dollars.  Ms. Brady stated that AOGA supports a competitive                  
  program in which all licenses are awarded on the basis of a                  
  written sales bid.  She further stated AOGA supports a                       
  program in which conversion is from license to lease.  She                   
  said AOGA supports a program in which any relinquishment of                  
  a licensed area would not occur before the fourth                            
  anniversary of a license.  (Note, much of the above was                      
  indiscernible.)  Ms. Brady concluded by saying AOGA supports                 
  the October 25 draft.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 100                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. PETE NELSON, LAND MANAGER, TEXACO, said Texaco strongly                  
  supports DNR's October 25 draft, and also supports AOGA's                    
  position as presented today.  She said Texaco believes this                  
  will encourage accelerated exploration and development of                    
  areas that have not been sufficiently evaluated, and it will                 
  present a great opportunity for Alaska and for industry.                     
  She said this draft does not cater to one specific party,                    
  but is a consensus document.  Ms. Nelson stated her hope for                 
  the bill's passage with essentially the same contents as is                  
  currently existent.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 122                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN noted that Representative Bill Williams of                    
  Ketchikan was now present.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 128                                                                   
                                                                               
  BRAD PENN, AREA LAND MANAGER, MARATHON OIL COMPANY, stated                   
  the company supports the October 25 draft.  He said the                      
  document provides a complement to the state's five-year                      
  leasing program and it represents a unanimous consensus of                   
  diverse companies on areas such as bonding, relinquishment,                  
  and work commitment.  Mr. Penn commended Mr. Ken Boyd and                    
  the Division of Oil & Gas on their efforts to work with                      
  industry to develop this legislation.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 141                                                                   
                                                                               
  GEORGE FINLEY, MANAGER OF GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC RELATIONS,                   
  ARCO ALASKA INCORPORATED, testified in support of the                        
  October 25 draft.  He stated the bill provisions were an                     
  integrated and fairly elegant combination of mechanisms for                  
  the following four reasons:  1) It is a frontier bill which                  
  excludes inappropriate areas; 2) it provides a fair and                      
  level playing field for the competition in awarding                          
  licenses; 3) it provides strong incentives to do the work                    
  quickly; and 4) it supplements the existing system very                      
  nicely.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 165                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS asked to what extent ARCO's                           
  participation could be assumed, given their support of the                   
  bill.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 169                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. FINLEY responded that this committee substitute has                      
  allowed ARCO to begin thinking about frontier prospects                      
  proposed for exploration licensing that would otherwise not                  
  be considered.  Mr. Finley said he could not make any                        
  promises and obviously did not want to talk about any                        
  particular areas until the bill passed.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 175                                                                   
                                                                               
  LIZ SHEPHERD, UNOCAL, testified in support of the October 25                 
  draft proposal.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 181                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN said he was pleased to hear UNOCAL's support.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 190                                                                   
                                                                               
  TOM WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS,                     
  BRITISH PETROLEUM EXPLORATION(BP), stated that British                       
  Petroleum completely supports the October 25 draft,                          
  recommended as a committee substitute.  He said large block                  
  licensing is a useful addition to the state's conventional                   
  leasing program.  He stated it would not be a substitute for                 
  the current leasing program, but the commissioner of DNR                     
  would have to use discretion to decide which system to use                   
  in appropriate circumstances.  He stated experience                          
  elsewhere in the world indicates that these programs can in                  
  fact lead to discoveries as well as increased exploration                    
  activity.  He said BP supports the bill and pledges to not                   
  seek to change it from this version as it moves forward.                     
  Regarding the necessary rewording of the draft, at the risk                  
  of sounding arrogant, he cautioned the legislators to not                    
  yield to distraction regarding particular style preferences.                 
  Finally, he commended the patience and flexibility of other                  
  companies who worked on this legislation.  He also thanked                   
  Commissioner Noah for his leadership and Mr. Ken Boyd for                    
  his skillfulness.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 228                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN expressed his appreciation for Mr. William's                  
  well-founded words of caution.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 232                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS asked about the history and                        
  effectiveness of large tract leasing.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 240                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS said he does not think any other state has a                    
  large block program, and that perhaps conventional leasing                   
  has been used because other states have a different land                     
  ownership pattern than that of Alaska.  He said large block                  
  programs have been used in other countries with varying                      
  degrees of success and are usually referred to as "large                     
  tract concessions."  He said BP's experience with this began                 
  in the early 1900s in Iran.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 268                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN commented that Mr. Williams made an excellent                 
  point in mentioning that a lot of Alaskan land is owned by                   
  the state.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 276                                                                   
                                                                               
  WALT FURNACE, ALASKA SUPPORT INDUSTRY ALLIANCE, stated the                   
  Alliance supports the October 25, 1993, draft.  He said the                  
  provisions are pertinent and necessary in order to establish                 
  a large block leasing program in Alaska.  For the record, he                 
  acknowledged the industry members who worked on this draft.                  
  Mr. Furnace expressed concern that the bill would change                     
  during the legislative process, and he encouraged Chairman                   
  Green to exercise his ability to safeguard the bill from                     
  substantial changes.  He mentioned that Alliance's 320                       
  members would be available to offer any support necessary                    
  regarding this issue.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 318                                                                   
                                                                               
  JERRY BOOTH, VICE PRESIDENT, ENERGY AND MINERALS, COOK INLET                 
  REGION INCORPORATED (CIRI), stated CIRI is owned by                          
  approximately 6,700 Athabascan, Eskimo, and Aleut                            
  shareholders.  He said CIRI owns and manages approximately                   
  924,000 acres of surface estate and 1.6 million acres of                     
  subsurface estate in Alaska.  CIRI has been active in                        
  Alaska's oil and gas industry for over 15 years.  He added                   
  that it owns a subsidiary, Cook Inlet Region Production                      
  Company, and has other oil and gas involvements on the North                 
  Slope.  He said CIRI supports the concept of large block                     
  leasing and licensing in Alaska.  He concluded by saying                     
  that CIRI supports the drafting of this legislation in a way                 
  that respects the fragile compromises that have already been                 
  agreed upon.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 360                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN said it was encouraging to have the support                   
  of a Native corporation on this issue.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARY SHIELDS, GENERAL MANAGER, NORTHWEST TECHNICAL SERVICES                  
  and STATE LEGISLATIVE CHAIR, ALASKAN FEDERATION OF BUSINESS                  
  AND PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS WOMEN, testified in support of the                 
  October 25 document and stated on behalf of both                             
  organizations, she wanted to congratulate the extensive                      
  efforts of those involved with crafting this document.                       
                                                                               
  Number 392                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there were any comments or questions                 
  from the remote sites of Kotzebue, Fairbanks, Juneau,                        
  Soldotna, or from the audience.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 407                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAVID LAPPE, PRESIDENT, LAPP RESOURCES, testified in support                 
  of the October 25 document.  He said a majority of the oil                   
  industry in Anchorage met during the summer and worked hard                  
  to produce this compromise.  He said Alaska needs to do what                 
  it can to remain competitive in this international market.                   
                                                                               
  Number 432                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS asked Mr. Lappe if there was                            
  opportunity for independents in this bill.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 434                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. LAPPE replied in the affirmative.  He said opportunities                 
  would depend, in part, on the state's implementation of the                  
  regulations.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 459                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN referred to the 20,000 acre minimum in the                    
  current version, and asked if this amount of acreage would                   
  be attractive to an independent; the concern being that a                    
  smaller organization would find bonding to be quite                          
  difficult.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 487                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. LAPPE agreed that bonding would be extremely difficult                   
  for a smaller company because of a lack of cash resources.                   
  Regarding the size of the acreage, he said that 20,000 acres                 
  was not an unreasonable minimum to have.  He stated this                     
  amount is roughly the size of four current state leases and                  
  this is certainly within the explorative capability of                       
  independents.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 518                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if JACK RODERICK would care to make a                   
  statement.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 525                                                                   
                                                                               
  JACK RODERICK, LOCAL CITIZEN, WRITING A BOOK ON THE HISTORY                  
  OF THE OIL INDUSTRY, expounded on the concept of exploration                 
  during the 1950s and 1960s.  He summarized historical                        
  information and mentioned the federal government's use of                    
  development contracts.  He added that exploration would be                   
  useful and beneficial to the state.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 600                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there were other comments.  There                    
  being none, he thanked Mr. Ken Boyd and the industry for                     
  their hard work.  He stated his appreciation of their                        
  efforts and emphasized the fact that Alaska is operating in                  
  a competitive international marketplace.                                     
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN GREEN adjourned the meeting at 11:30 a.m.                           
                                                                               

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